i don't know how you can make the argument that 800,000 civilian defense workers losing their jobs can be good for the economy. i don't quite see how that's possible, and now on spending on preschool, look, what we're looking at now, forget the president's agenda to increase it. we're now looking at major cut to head start because of the sequester. i don't know if that impacts on the economy today, but you can't tell me this is a good thing for the future when we take away the programs for kids. >> bottom line is, literally, barack obama needs more revenue. he needs another source. he just raised taxes on the risk, talking about closing ductions which is not enough. i'd like to predict they will eventually put another tax mechanism on the table such as a value added tax or some kind of carbon tax because they similarly have to have a sustain revenue flow to support things like the $10 billion a year for universal education. sandra: rick? >> it's a wonderful idea, dan, but it'sot going to happen. >> they'll try. >> no, they won't. sandra: we'll leave it there. thank you so much for join